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Das Liddle Stik ( 45.7 in. / 116 cm ) 109.00 Eur.


The Das Liddle Stik

Das Liddle Stik model airplane plan

Das Liddle Stik
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The "Das Liddle Stik" is a smaller version of the famous Ugly Stick.
It flies really well as you can see on the videos and it´s a perfect ailerons trainer.
The landing gear can set as a taildragger with a free rear wheel or as a tricycle with a controllable nose wheel for more control on the tarmac.

If you are looking for a first 3d printed sport trainer the Liddle Stik is one of your best options.

This 3d printed version was modelled from an RCM plan by designed by Phil Kraft and Larry Leonard that was distributed in the 1968 May issue of the RCM Magazine, this plan:
https://aerofred.com/details.php?image_id=80646

I have made the printable files available for free as a gift to the modelling and 3d printing communities and they can be downloaded on thingiverse here:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2663805

There is also a RCGroups thread:
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2992513


### Basic specs ###

Print weight: +/- 850grams
AUW: +/- 1350grams?
WingSpan 115cm
Motor 250watts?

### Needed gear and materials ###

Outrunner 3530 or 3536 or 3542 3s about 2200ma/h battery 40amps esc (250watts)
2 hs81 size servos for rudder and elevator
2 hs55 servos, one for each aileron
2 or 3 wheels, the lighter the better, 1 rear wheel and a piece of 2mm wire for the rear landing gear.
0.5mm or 0.75mm piano wire for the links (rudder and elevator)
A colar for the rear landing gear, the rear wheel will be free.
Two or four servo extensions for the wing servos.
Velcro or a velcro strap for the battery
CA hinges
Medium or thick CA
CA Accelerator
A propeller
10 M6X40 Nylon screws
4 M3X20 steels screws and 4 M3 nuts and a few M3 washers (included withe printed kit)
1 piano wire .25 (preferably) or .40 size nose landing gear. The nose wheel may need to be smaller to keep the plane levelled!

### Included in the printed kit ###

The plane itself in both tail dragger and tricycle landing gear versions.
2 motor mounts printed in ABS or PETG
2 motor spacers
2 mounts for the nose gear, one longer and one shorter.

### You will need to: ###

Clean the threads with a M6 tap

### Credits ###

To the original designers, of course and to Tom Mansell for the flight pictures with the stunning scenery.

Please post the pictures of your build here:
https://forum.aerofred.com/forum/3d-printing/aerofred-kits


Files

Here you can find the available files for the Das Liddle Stik.


Recommended CA Glue

Glue:
HK Medium thickness CA

Accelerator:
HK Accelerator

Note:
This glue and accelerator have been tested and work on PLA, not all glues and accelerators, specially the accelerators work well. If you purchase the Das Liddle Stik Kit I will include a piece of printed PLA so you can do your tests.


Hot weather

In the Summer it's advisable to not let a PLA printed plane inside the car under the sun, it might become deformed. Also, at the flying field, planes made of darker colors PLA or painted with dark colors can become hot and can become deformed, leave your printed plane in the shade.

The solution to these issues is to print your planes in PET-G that will resist to heat up to 90-100C without any problems.

Details: Full Details
ID: 99742
Type: Airplane
Class: Radio-Control
Use: Sport
Motor: Electric-Powered
Motor Size:150-To-300-Watt 
Wingspan: 45.7 in. / 116 cm
Publisher: AeroFred.com
Designer: Phil Kraft and Larry Leonard
Weight:1350 g
Material:Plastic-PLA

About 3D Printed Model Airplanes
If you have doubts about how these models are designed, printed and how the fly, this page is for you.

Before anything else, watch this video.

The most common question I get is:

-How do these planes fly?

The video at the right is from FliteTest's Youtube channel, they installed cameras on the plane and filmed it in flight with a drone, these images are not only spectacular but they also allow us to see the behavior of the plane in flight. Enjoy!

This P-38 in the video requires:

  • 12 channels radio if you don´t use y-cables.
  • 4-5 full days straight to print on one printer if everything goes well.

All our 3D Printed planes are here.

A complete 3D Printed planes FAQ can be found here.


Order 3D Printed Das Liddle Stik
Please select the options below.

Order the Das Liddle Stik kit or partsFAQ
Complete Kit:

Complete KIT.
Material:
PLA is rigid, heat resistant to about 60C, prints well with good finishing.

Pet-G weights the same as PLA, is strong, heat resistant up to about 90C, more flexible than PLA, more expensive and difficult to print but the advisable choice for durable planes and warmer climates.
Color:


Notes:

*Important Please send us a message explaining how the colors will be used. Each part can only have one color, please download the pdf manual to see how the models are split. Adds extra cost.

Discount Coupon:
Shipping: Ships in 2-3 business days (if printed in silver, white or natural PLA) by "Priority Mail", double wall strong cardboard box all pieces bubble wrapped, traceable on your national mail system tracking page and on ctt.pt.

Ordering a 3D Printed "Das Liddle Stik"" Kit
This tool allows you to calculate the cost of printing and shipping the Das Liddle Stik model airplane kit and/or spare parts.

How to order:
  1. Set the options on the left and click the "Calculate" button
  2. Change the options as needed and click "Calculate" button again.
  3. When you're happy with the results click the Paypal Button and finish the checkout at Paypal´s website.
  4. I will review the order, print and ship.
  5. Please keep an eye on your email inbox and SPAM folders.
  6. Printing the Das Liddle Stik takes approximately 48 hours on one single printer, thankfully we have more than one printer so your kit will be produced just in just a fraction of that.
Packaging & Postage:
  1. Larger parts individually packed in bubble wrap film so nothing gets lost or damaged.
  2. Double cardboard box.
  3. Priority Airmail. The tracking number will be sent to you and posted at Paypal´s website
Note:
  1. The PDF Assembly manual has links to web pages where you can obtain the needed electronics and even some supplies.
  2. On multiple kits orders, each kit will be shipped on an individual box, it wouldn't be cheaper to ship combined.

Terms of Service.
Please read the 3D Printing Service Terms of Use before placing an order.

About the 3D File source and Print Service:

The Das Liddle Stik was designed by derfred and will be printed by AeroFred as a service.

Model Printing and Order Processing:

Printing a model airplane requires many hours of printing, typically, for the models we sell, between 24 and 280 hours if the job is done one one single printer. Luckily we have many printers so your new plane will be ready to ship in 1-2 days if is printed in PLA or up to 2 weeks if it´s printed in PET-G and we don´t have the chosen color in stock.

Scaling:

Models from derfred can be scaled up by up to 130% depending on the model but please know that when these models are printed all the needed fixtures for motor, battery pack, servos, links, wiring ducts are also printed so they would all be scaled so additional work will be required on your end to fit the gear.
As an example, the Edge uses 5 grams servos, if scaled to 130% (1,56m) the servo slots will hold 12 grams servos perfectly but the motor mount will have to be adapted. This can be easily done by using bolts from end to end and washers in the back. Not beg deal. But on the P-47 that uses retracts the ob is not this easy, you would have to create a plate with holes to secure the retracts to the wing.

Modifications:

We can´t do modifications at design level. However, PLA glues very well with CA and accelerator so you can do as in any other model airplane kit, you can add balsa or lite ply and you can make any modifications yourself.

You will receive:

  • Complete Das Liddle Stik 3D Printed KIT on PLA or individual parts for the same model, depending on your order.
  • One piece of printed PLA, some bad print I may have around here, so you can do your experiments and tests instead of trying on the plane itself.
  • Cardboard box with appropriate cushioning so the parts are protected during the shipment.

The manual can be downloaded in PDF format and has links to web pages where the needed components can be ordered.


You will NOT receive:

  • 3d .stl or .gcode files, project files or any files at all apart from the pdf manual.
  • CA Glue or CA Accelerator.
  • Electronic components.
  • Wheels, hinges, propellers, screws, piano wire, carbon fiber tubes or rods, paint or decals.

Note:
Vinyl decals do not stick on 3d printed planes, the only way to add insignia, camouflage, letterings is to paint with acrylic spray paint and a stencil or a mask.


Assembly and preparation:

Modeling work it´s your job :)
You will have to follow the manual to assembly this kit and do all the work needed, this is a model airplane Kit, not a toy.

Model Durability:

Both PLA and PET-G are excellent choices for printed planes but PLA will not withstand temperatures above 60C and inside a car in a hot day this temperature can be reached easy, if you live in a region with hot weather the best option for you is to select PET-G as building material, PET-G is more expensive, harder to produce and takes longer to print but the parts are stronger than PLA and will hold temperatures up to 90C. PET-G weights the same as PLA and it´s slightly more flexible making it best choice for durable model airplanes today.

About our printers:

We use high quality original 3D Printers, no Chinese clone printers or cheap Ebay 3d printers.

About the different filament types:

PLA: PLA is the most used material on 3d printing today, it prints well, with good finishing and little or no warping. We use the top quality filaments made from NatureWorks Ingeo3D850 and Ingeo3D870 and Filament PM.
PLA shouldn´t be used in warmer climates and dark colors or dark painted PLA should not be left under the sun, it will deform, temperatures above 60C will deform PLA.

ABS: ABS is one of the most commonly used plastic, Legos are ABS, your car bumpers are probably ABS. This material has a high resistance to heat (90C or more) and it´s strong. It would be perfect for our planes if it wasn´t so hard to print in single wall as we do in model airplanes.
It is still used for solid parts like motor mounts an other parts that require strength and heat resistance.

PET-G: PET-G is the material used in plastic bottles, it´s very strong, possibly stronger than ABS and has a heat resistance similar to ABS. PET-G it´s a little more flexible than PLA but is still a great material for printed model airplanes. It is the right choice for warmer climates and when extra resistance is needed.


Packaging:

We will use strong double wall cardboard boxes and the appropriate cushioning to protect each one of the printed parts, every part is rolled on bubble wrap plastic film.

Shipping:

We ship from Portugal, Europe and use the reliable Portuguese mail system CTT.
CTT has delivery agreements with different entities on each country so if you´re from the US you may have your order delivered by USPS, in the UK may be Royal Mail and so on.


Discount Coupons:

Discount coupons are valid from 3 to 30 days after purchase, you can use them any number of times you like but only once per item order.
The codes are issued in the Paypal invoice, please check the transaction details at Paypal website or in the Paypal email you received after purchase to get your Discount Coupon code.
You are free to post the Coupons online, give them to friends, share them in any way you like.
To use just Copy/Paste the Coupon code (i.e.: TAKE10#6012019) to the text field in the plan listing page to use your discount. No spaces and no manual typing, just copy/paste.

Postage Rates Types:

We charge according to the ctt.pt postage table. The smaller planes that fit boxes up to 90cm (sum of the three dimensions) and weighting less than 2kg we ship as a "letter" so the postage it´s cheap, larger planes have to be shipped as a "package", this is why the postage it´s expensive for medium and large planes.

Priority Mail w/ Tracking:

All 3D Printed models and parts are shipped by priority mail that is traceable, larger boxes are shipped as a package that is also registered and traceable and will arrive as quick as priority mail.

Returns:

We will only accept returns of non assembled, undamaged complete models or spare parts.
Postage fees from the original order are non refundable and you will have to pay the postage back to us.
No re-stocking fee if everything arrives in good condition.
In doubt please ask us for an opinion.

Payments:

Orders can be paid with Paypal or Credit Card via Paypal and are shipped to the address on your Paypal account or to the address you set at checkout.

ToS Acknowledgment:

Placing an order on this page implies acceptance of the above Terms of Service.

Spare Parts and Options
All the individual sections of the Das Liddle Stik can be re-printed on demand.

Das Liddle Stik

 

Price: 109Eur.

Details
These are the details for the "Das Liddle Stik" model.

Plan Attributes: Edit Attributes
Plan ID:99742
Keywords:liddle stik printable 3d
Class:Radio-Control
Model Type:Airplane
Channels:4-ch
Functions:Ailerons-Elevator-Rudder-Throttle
Aircraft Use:Sport
Wingspan: 45.7 in. / 116 cm
Wingspan Class:100cm-To-125cm (40in-To-50in)
Wing Position:High-Mounted-Wing
Wing Style:Straight-Wing-Rect
Wing Dihedral:Flat
Landing Gear:Taildragger
Motor Type:Electric-Powered
Motor Size:150-To-300-Watt 
Number of Motors:1-Tractor
Weight:1350 g
Weight Class:1000g-To-1500g (35.2oz-To-52.9oz)
Material:Plastic-PLA
Construction Skills:Novice
Pilot Skills:Novice
Publisher:AeroFred.com
Date:11/2017
Reference:1
Designer:Phil Kraft and Larry Leonard
Found:
Submitted to AeroFred.com
Listing Editor:derfred
Category:AeroFred Kits
Similar:Plans like Das Liddle Stik
File Details:
Date:22/11/2017 20:53
Views:91826
Downloads:3276
Rating:0.00(0Votes)
File size:46.9 MB

Video
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Comments & Corrections
Do you have questions, comments or corrections about the Das Liddle Stik? Your input will surely help others to build this model...

Little stick Gcodes seperate. andrewjm1959@yahoo.com.au on 12/02/2019 03:02
With every thing printing out great, yes i am building it. I am now stuck with the fact that the Gcodes for the aileron are not seperate anywhere in the files except as STL files.
Das Liddle Stik derfred on 12/02/2019 12:35
All right, I´ll make them and add to the thingiverse listing. But you have the stl and the .factory files that you could use to produce the gcodes yourself.
Help printing the wings (L1 & R1) paultbg on 18/03/2019 12:35
Hello,

I have some issues printing the above 2 parts, can you please have a look at this post:

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=41397159&postcount=343

Ty
Paul
link to this set of files is DEAD adellin on 11/02/2021 19:44
link to this set of files is DEAD
Das Liddle Stik derfred on 11/02/2021 19:47
It´s working but the files is just a pdf with a link to the files on thingiverse.
No Files on Thingiverse ka5biw on 25/02/2021 04:28
I would really like to print and build this plane. Unfortunately, the link to thingiverse ends up with a 404 error. Are the files available anywhere?
I have the files but poor prints. PaladinServices@Charter.net on 27/05/2021 22:54
Hello, I have the STL files for this plane but for whatever reason I am not able to get them to print out correctly.
If any of you want a copy of the complete file set I am happy to share, and I would also appreciate some help to figure out what the heck I'm doing wrong.
Getting real tired of wasting spools of media.

When I print out the pieces they don't have the inner supports and or the supports are going right through places that need to stay open for things like wing dowels and pushrods and so on.
I'm really confused. I'm using Ultimaker Cura 4.9.1 so it should work. When I zoom in on the STL files and look at the internal structures the inners supports are there. But once the parts start to print all is gone. I am more than frustrated. If anyone out there can help me I would sure appreciate it.
Late to the party Thomas1083 on 15/12/2022 22:04
I like the simplicity of this design. I purchased an Ender 3 V2 printer for the sole purpose of printing airplanes. I have printed most of the parts using the supplied gcode and have noticed many areas for improvement. I am unable to slice fuselage F2 using Cura, Superslicer or Prusa slicer and get the servo tray to print. Would it be possible to get the Fusion 360 files (*.f3d) ? Inserting the mesh file (F2.stl ) results in too many triangles to handle efficiently.

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